Francois Gagnon: Professor of Electrical Engineering, ÉTS
A professor of Electrical Engineering at L’École de Technologie Supérieure (ÉTS) in Montreal and the chair holder of the Richard J. Marceau Chair on Wireless IP Technology for Developing Countries, François Gagnon has begun a project to bring the Internet to the most sparsely populated areas of the developing world. InterDigital sat down with Gagnon to discuss this project and the impact that access to technology can have on humans.
When most people in the technology world think “Amazon,” it’s the Seattle-based retailer that leaps to mind –
but not for François Gagnon. A professor of Electrical Engineering at L’École de Technologie Supérieure (ÉTS) in
Montreal and the chair holder of the Richard J. Marceau Chair on Wireless IP Technology for Developing Countries,
Gagnon has begun a project to bring the Internet to the most sparsely populated areas of the developing world.
He’s beginning this work in a place — the Amazon basin of rural southeastern Ecuador — that shares little in
common with the world’s biggest e-commerce site or with his native Quebec.
Gagnon admits that he probably could have begun this work closer to home. “In rural regions of Northern Quebec,
people are still asking for broadband Internet, but no one there invited me to work with them,” Gagnon laughs. An
Ecuadorian professor he had met in Montreal invited him to give a presentation in 2014. While visiting UTPL — the
Technical University in Loja, Ecuador — Gagnon was asked to participate in a land management project spanning
three provinces in Southern Ecuador. This project would become his test bed for technology development.
In many ways, Ecuador is a lot like many other developed countries in terms of its level of Internet availability. Its
biggest cities and areas nearest the major highways — where major trunk lines could easily be installed — have
more or less the same access as most of the Western world. The large urban cities like Quito and Guayaquil have
4G LTE wireless and fiber optics.
The big difference is in the rural areas, particularly in the sparsely populated Amazon basin. “Once you get about
20 to 30 kilometers off the main highway, there just isn’t a business case for providing Internet access,” he says.
“I’m working to change that.”
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An Interview with Francois Gagnon | Professor of Electrical Engineering
Once you get about 20 to 30 kilometers off the main highway,
there just isn’t a business case for providing Internet access,
I’m working to change that. “
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There are some places that are so remote that local tribes only made first contact within the last 50 years. Many
villages are a rugged two-plus hour journey to the nearest town. That village may only be home to a few hundred
people, who may share only a single phone line or two. There is nothing in these remote areas that even roughly
approximates Internet ubiquity. But that hasn’t stopped a number of enterprising individuals from using the
internet to draw bird watchers from all over the world to the region, which is one of South America’s bird watching
hotspots. The area where Gagnon will focus his efforts is near the Nangaritza River rainforest, which is home to
hundreds of species of rare birds.
“I was making a reservation online to stay with a local resident on a recent trip to a small rural village, and it
took me a bit to understand why the innkeeper took 48 hours to confirm my reservation, and another 48 hours
to answer my questions,” explains Gagnon. “Well, he only goes into town every two days, and that’s his nearest
This part of Ecuador is where Gagnon is working to develop a business case for providing this kind of service, but
it’s by no means the only country where the need is felt. An estimated 58 percent of the global population doesn’t
have regular access to the Internet.
In January 2017, Gagnon visited the remote village of Shaime, which is (as the crow flies) about 280 miles south of
Quito, the equatorial nation’s capital. The nearest city of any size is Loja (population 180,000), a five-hour drive to
the northwest of Shaime.
“I went to this village to see what they wanted,” he says. “There are about 300 people in this village and 160 kids in
the village school, and most of these people have a smartphone, by the way.”
So what do they want? They want to share pictures, to watch videos. They want Wikipedia. They want to host
tourists, according to Gagnon. “The things they want are not that different from what we want,” he says. But it
goes beyond wanting to simply pull information from the modern world. It’s about participation and sharing as
well. Many of these villages are comprised of people who live off the land. “They’re not agricultural,” Gagnon says.
“So there’s no real economy like most of us would recognize.”
Without regular access, these villages are mostly cut off from the modern world. Even for those of us who don’t
shop online, much, we take for granted that we have local stores where we can buy things in real time. These
remote villages don’t even have that, for the most part. So e-commerce is just one way in which they’d like to
become more equalized with their urban counterparts.
There are many ways to provide wireless Internet service to underserved populations. Gagnon is still in the
research phase of his project. “My aim is to build a business case to bring wireless Internet into small villages,”
My aim is to build a business case to bring wireless Internet
into small villages. “
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A Meeting with the Shuare
In Shaime, there are 160 kids at the village’s
school yet the nearest internet access is a
2 hours bush drive. As Gagnon met with
the Shuare, he wondered if access was
important to them? He quickly learned that
was a foolish question...they take the drive
frequently! It’s not as if they didn’t know
about the internet!
For Gagnon, this project is very mission-oriented. He tells
us that his goal is for the technology to be sustainable for
these small communities, and for the residents to have
some ownership over the technology as well. The details
of this are still being worked out, but Gagnon sees this
partially through his lens as a professor: as a learning
opportunity for the community that will be served by
The wireless approach is how Gagnon feels the technology
will be deployed most easily. Microwave radio towers can
be deployed at higher elevations to allow their signals to
propagate over greater distances, with lower infrastructure
costs and less impact to the environment.
From a bandwidth perspective, Gagnon realizes that ultra-
high bandwidth may not be feasible for these very remote
villages, but he believes that some measure of normalcy
will be possible. “It’s unlikely we’ll be able to deliver
bandwidth that would enable voice over IP,” he explains.
However, he believes that this project may be able to get
into the megabit range, which will allow the residents to
actually use the modern Internet, with video and some
other normal Internet activity. “The minimum you need to
get some minimal form of video is about half a megabit or
200 kilobits per second,” he says.
There are really three major components to this challenge,
the way Gagnon sees it. The first is the technological one.
The second is the business and financial case – Gagnon
would like to see this become feasible at around $400
per month to serve an entire village. And the third is the
educational challenge – in order for this to be adopted by a
rural village, Gagnon will have to work with the villagers to
teach them how to get the best use out of it, how to solve
problems that arise, and how to help in maintaining their
end of the infrastructure.
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At the current time, this project is still in the planning phase. Gagnon has plans for a test phase to begin in 2018.
He says there will be some political and possibly legal hurdles to overcome, but remains optimistic. “At this point in
time, I think it’s doable,” he says.
“I went to see the Minister of Telecommunication of Ecuador,” he adds. “And I think we got an understanding that
this will be okay.” Gagnon explains that a pilot project like this can involve putting an antenna on top of a mountain
that can serve as many as 10 villages at once.
His work with the Ecuadorian government involves helping them to understand the importance of finding
continuing funding for these projects. “I told them that once they turn on Internet for ten villages, it needs to
continue on for more than just a year or two.”
Gagnon says that the Ecuadorian government has been very positive and collaborative and seems to have a good
understanding of what this can do for their people.
Perhaps Gagnon’s project in Ecuador can serve as a model someday for how other countries with underserved
populations can bring the Internet to all of their citizens.
“We tend to take so much for granted, living in the industrialized West,” says Gagnon. “But a lot of the people I
talked to in these villages thought this was one of the most important things that could happen in the village.”
We tend to take so much for granted, living in the industrialized
West, but a lot of the people I talked to in these villages thought
this was one of the most important things that could happen in